BORN AGAIN- IS IT A LITERAL BIRTH OF A SPIRIT IN US THAT WAS NEVER THERE BEFORE? OR JUST A NEW WAY OF THINKING? John 3:1-8

In John3 when Jesus tells Nicodemus he must be born again because what is born of the flesh is flesh. And what is born of the Spirit is spirit. He is not saying he must be born of the Spirit because being only flesh he is evil, or sinful by nature. As so many falsely teach. Not only because the word flesh in the Bible does not mean that. But, also because when understood in context there is no way a person can come to the conclusion that it does mean evil or sinful.

When used in the scriptures flesh never means evil or sinful. The word flesh in the Bible is the Greek word sarx. It means the tissue, muscle, and blood our bodies are made of. It literally means the body of flesh we see when we look at each other. And what we can feel when we pinch ourselves.

But, since Augustine's gnostic doctrine of original sin and sin nature was introduced to the rcc in the 4th century ad, people have been interpreting Jesus' teaching to Nicodemus to mean he needs to be born again because he is a sinner by nature because of his flesh he inherited from Adam. And that being born again is just a change of mind from obeying the flesh to obeying Jesus.

Because of this gross mischaracterization of the truth his message offers, most have never known what Jesus really meant when He told Nicodemus he must be born again. And have instead fallen prey to the enemy of men's souls, satan.

In a post at christian patriot news I commented about his teaching because of this by saying this,

"Christian, You made the assertion that most people don’t know what it means to be born again. And then did not explain what Jesus said it does mean. But, instead showed that you also do not know what it means by going into the usual diatribe about sin. But, in the message of John3:1-8 that you cited Jesus said nothing about sin as the reason you must be born again.

He said the reason you must be born again is because those who are only born of the flesh birth are only flesh. And that only those who have been born of God’s Spirit are spirit. Showing that a literal birth of a spirit in man, a spirit he never had before, is necessary for him to see the kingdom of God. And without it he never will.

This is what we see in Peter when he denied Jesus 3 times. He was only flesh. But, after Jesus left and he was born again we see him in the book of Acts a veritable powerhouse who could not be shut up from preaching Jesus. Because he now had a spirit that could be empowered by God’s Spirit.

In John3:1-8 Jesus showed that naughty or nice has nothing to do with how a man is born again. Or how he can come to see the kingdom of God.

You’re teaching informs a person about how to get right with Santa Claus. Not with the Jesus of the Bible. Because it is Santa Claus whose concern is with works. While the Jesus of the Bible’s main concern is with a literal spirit being birthed in a man, one that he never had before, so that he becomes a child of God. And therefore heir to His kingdom.

I hope this helps you better understand what Jesus was talking about in John3:1-8 when He said “Ye must be born again…”

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Here's the crux of the problem and where the disconnect from scriptural understanding comes from for these people. When a gnostic, which describes all who prescribe to the belief in original sin and sin nature doctrine, reads what Jesus said to Nicodemus about being only flesh and needing to be born of the spirit. He instantly transforms what Jesus said to mean that it's because a man is born evil, ie the flesh, the answer for this is to be made good by being born again. Why?

Because to the gnostic the flesh is evil and the spirit is good. This is basic gnostic philosophy. So to the gnostic mind, the problem that Jesus is describing here is that it is because man is evil when he is conceived because he is flesh. Because the flesh is in and of itself evil. So if he is to see the kingdom of God the only solution is that he must be made good by changing his mind to "spiritual things" because the spiritual is good.

But, every time, and I mean every time, that flesh is used in the Bible it is referring to the body in a neutral sense. And not to a fictitious "nature", sinful or otherwise, that the gnostic mind prescribes to it.

Until this paradigm is breached, everyone who has been deceived to believe the flesh is evil in and of itself by inheritance from Adam, will never know the truth about God, Jesus, or the atonement. But, will remain completely in the camp of the harlot/woman that rides the beast. Those who Jesus said need to come out of her lest they be made to partake in her sins and plagues.

Because as I have stated many times before in my messages, Jesus plainly states that it is because only what is spirit can worship God in spirit and in truth. John4:24. And Paul confirms in 1Cor.15:45-48 that men are all natural from conception, and not spiritual, from the time God made Adam a living soul. Gen.2:7, and 7:15,22.

That makes the intent not one of works that causes man's need for the deliverance of God. But, it is the fact that he is only natural, and not spiritual, that causes this need. A need Adam had when he was made a living soul.

This is why while Adam was in the garden he too could never know this. Because he was created by God natural not spiritual on purpose. This was God's plan from before He made the world. Because through a process man was to come to the place where he was fully equipped to choose for himself who will be his God.

So that when Jesus came He could bring this spiritual birth He told Nicodemus about to all men. To the Jew first, then also to the gentiles. In God's plan this made Jesus the only way, truth, and life that joins us to God as His children by birth.

Remember, in Mt.15:24 Jesus said He came only for the lost sheep of the house of Israel. This was so that as Paul says in Gal.3:17 when Jesus came, "17 that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise."

So the reason Jesus came to Israel was to confirm the Old Covenant with them. This is why He told them "17 Think not that I have come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

So Jesus' stated purpose in coming as a man was to confirm the Old Covenant with Israel. So that as it's final once for all sacrifice it would be fulfilled. Making it possible for it to pass away just as Jesus said it would. And this is exactly what happened.

Jesus wasn't responsible for their overall rejection of Him. He even told them in John5, "43 I have come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not" to show them they missed their messiah. And because they did He told them also that "if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive." Speaking of antichrist.

And since that Old Covenant has passed away Israel and gentiles both have access to God the same way. Through faith in Jesus. And not by works. Through the new birth Jesus told Nicodemus he must have to see the kingdom of God. Because by this new birth a man becomes a child of God and therefore heir to His kingdom.

But, for those who now have accepted the spirit of antichrist doctrine of original sin and sin nature, they have set themselves up for the strong delusion. Being strongly deluded themselves by this gnostic heresy the apostles fought against, as is so clearly seen in their epistles.

Because they have believed the gnostic inspired lie that Jesus could not have come in the same flesh all men have as Heb.2:14 plainly says He did. Because they have believed that all men's flesh is evil. The very doctrine John said was of the spirit of antichrist in 1John4:3 saying, "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world."

But, as we have seen in Heb.2:14 Paul says He did come, not just in a kind of flesh, but in the same flesh all men have. And that while He was in the same flesh all men have Paul said that Jesus "knew no sin". Heb.4:15. Showing plainly that the doctrine of original sin and sin nature is a strong delusion.

Strength that is shown by how it has taken over all the churches that call themselves christian. So much so that when the truth is shared with them they reject it, and anyone who dares to share it, vehemently.

So you who claim to be a christian, if you have been deceived to believe this false gnostic teaching. You must turn from it to be set free by what Paul called, "25 the acknowledging of the truth; 26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will."

And just because the doctrine you were taught in the rcc and her daughter's churches that you now believe is all you have ever known doesn't make it true. Any more than those who have up till now heard only mormon, jw, Hindu, Buddhist, or any other false teaching.

Remember, what's really sad is not that the deep state rcc and her daughters have lied and keeps lying to us. It’s that so many still believe them. The truth is still the truth even if no one believes it. And a lie is still a lie even if every one believes it.

And now that you know the reason Jesus said "Ye must be born again". And that it has nothing to do with the naughty/nice works salvation introduced through the false original sin and sin nature doctrine. But, only with our trusting in Jesus and confessing Him as Lord as Paul said in Rom.10:9,10 to be saved. What will you do with it?

Will you believe what the Bible plainly says is the real reason why God made Adam natural, and not spiritual? That it has everything to do with free will. And nothing to do with works. This is the real reason why He devised the plan that He did when He decided to create man in His own image.

It was so that we could by our own free will choose to love Him in return for His love He has now shown us in His grace that brought Him to join with man in our mortality. So that by making the way through the wall of death we could join with Him in immortality and eternal life. It is because of this that Jesus truly is the way, truth, and life. And no man can come to the Father except through faith in Him.

So trust in Jesus today and have a spirit birthed in you that you never had before. A spirit birthed in the temple of God that is your mortal body. The new wine in old wine bottles Jesus spoke of in Mt.9:17. A spirit that is born of God that makes you His child. And as His child, heir to His kingdom. Having eternal life now by that spirit birth. The new wine. A spiritual birth that is our assurance that we will receive immortality at the resurrection. The new wine bottles.

Confess Jesus is Lord. And believe in your heart that He raised from the dead. Do this and you will have eternal life. Do this and you will be a child of God and heir to His kingdom. Do this and immortality in heaven will be yours at the resurrection. Do this... and I will see you there or in the air!

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